A proof in this context  is, I think, I think, a series of formal statements, each one leading  from the next that prove something to be always true. A kind of very  formal argument with no holes in it at all. So you can say something  you believe to be true, but that is no more than conjecture until you  provide a 'proof', or a clear breakdown of 'how it works that this is  true'.
            
              An algorithm is, yes,   a series of very clear instructions to solve a problem.
              
              For a field so averse  ambiguity in its work, there seems to be a great deal of ambiguity  behind the scenes. There are a great many definitions of proof, and  of algorithm. The difficulty of definition is referred to often in  both cases. Malo's quote about astronomy is attributed to various  people, and the foundation of binary seems to be discovered,  rediscovered and debated for as long as humans have recorded their  thought – including with reference to the i-ching, which is  basically an ambiguity machine..
            
              I find researching  specific terms very difficult as any online explanation is very long,  and defines many instances of the same thing, so I have to go through  them all to find out the meaning in each context, then to cross check  that a bit in case the source is whackery. They also contain a lot of  other terms and symbols I do not understand, and I have to figure out  some basic grasp of them to be able to work out what things are at a  simpler level – particularly when looking at examples given. It's a  definite language barrier. I do not understand what the symbols in  the examples mean. But once I have picked that apart it begins to  make sense, even if it is difficult to get my head around. 
              
              It is hard not to shy  away when it becomes about numbers, because that has so many  unfortunately negative connections for me from maths being wasted as  an educational experience at school. The more I learn as I get older,  the more similarities I see with art, and the more annoyed I am to  have blipped stuff out just because it was a “maths” term, and  therefore not to do with me. Whereas it is clearly simply another way  of exploring and understanding the world. Numbers as a representative  agent for me I find very hard to grasp because I don't naturally  think in that way (any instance without something else defining it I  find almost impossible to remember) but patterns, models and  arrangements of arguments I find very compelling. There was  definitely something very wrong with the approach towards maths in  school as this weird disjointed, joyless period of learning tables  and memorising numbers, and then never getting to the interesting  stuff because of not being good at that bit. The response to “but  why?” was usually an annoyed “because it is”, and just  repeating it again. It's like teaching English by trying to make  people remember lists of words before learning that they can join  together to make stories, or learning to cook a risotto by counting  grains of rice. Looking back on it, it seems so weird and  short-sighted. I am very glad of this opportunity to see things  differently.
             
              Talking of seeing  things differently, today I didn't see anyone at all! It turns out  you need Skype Premium to have a conference video call, and that is  something I don't have. So I had a conference audio call – also a  first for me – with Malo, Chris Watkins and Matthew Hague. It's  pretty tricky to know who is supposed to speak when, so we kept it  short with a basic introduction – they asked about the project and  gave a brief outline of their own specialities and interests. 
             
              Matthew Hague is  working in software engineering and language .Checking that programs  are correct. From the theoretical side, but also implementing.  Building and analysing models – how exciting a model can we build  and still be able to analyse it? The more complicated the model, the  harder it is to analyse. This is the area I know least about and am  very very keen to get to grips with at a theoretical level as it has  tremendous use in terms of how it relates to writing, and how a  computing or mathematical model differs from a physical one. A lot of  terminology overlaps with art and literature but has very different  meanings in this context and this is very useful. 
             
              Chris Watkins is  working in machine learning, which I know a little more about, but  not what he was specifically working on, which is how to visualise  high dimensional data. Interpreting it so people (like me) who cannot  comprehend numerical data can work with it in visual form. Also how  to check that the visualisation is right and where it is misleading.  This is machine learning overlapping with bio-informatics.
             
              We will swap details  and arrange individual conversations for next week in advance of my  visit to talk about their work in more detail. I have also requested  to read some of their papers so I can come to that with some  reference.
            
              I asked them all what  they would like to get out of the exchange, and they were all keen to  help with the project, and to share their knowledge. Malo added that  alongside the desire for outreach, it was useful to be meeting with  someone who sees the world in a different way.  These people are  being generous with their time and thought, and I hope I can find a  way to feed back into their department in a useful way through this  project.